Thursday, 5 January 2017

Proscriptions in ayurveda

As per Ayurveda, some currently promoted practices are very wrong.
1. People seem to guzzle litres of water, beleiveing the body is a plumbing system. Ayurveda advises that only that much water be had as to address thirst. And in conditions like diabetes, wounds, eye problems, even that needs to be minimized.
2. Sprouts are an unhealthy food - and to be had rarely. They can hurt the eyes.
3. Milk shakes are a wrong food, as milk should never be had with sour foods.
.4. Curds has many benefits but needs to be had with restrictions. Only in winters, never at nights and never daily.
5. Honey in hot water is a very wrong concept, as honey heated become poisonous
6. Exercise is nityam (daily) but proscribed in cases like skin problems.
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People usually gasp at these facts, but this is as per Charaka and Vagbhata.
The reductionist system of modern medicine seems to stumble - because though the molecules in some foods seem to match, the body accepts certian foods differently from certian others.
And this is not just theory - but what i have also observed over years seeing one of the best ayurvedic doctors at work. hers
Comments
Adharshila Learning Centre What is the relation of exercise and skin problem?
Aparna Krishnan the text gives the poorvaroopam (premonitory symptioms), roopam (symptoms), nidanam (causes) as part of the diagnostics for each disease. there is no disease of 'etiology unknown' as in allopathy.
Aparna Krishnan then it gives the line of treatment including medicines, procedures, and restrictions of practice and food.
Aparna Krishnan i am sure 'why no exercise' would have a deep theoritical cause - but even to arrive there would need a deep scholarly understanding. i have only read the text and watched dr girija at her work very closely.
Aparna Krishnan for skin, incidentally, the food restrictions are very precise - no milk, curd, sour items, jaggery, fish, urad dal, til.
Aparna Krishnan i have seen extremely stubborn conditions (including advanced leucoderma) recover when the patient follows the diet, and also undergoes cleansing treatments and medications.
Gangadharan Kumar @Adarshlila: Likely due to increase in pitta (elevated pitta usually correlates to skin allergies etc.)
Aparna Krishnan no. skin conditions can be vata,pitta, kapha, samsarjana (any 2 doshas) and sannipata (all 3 doshas).
Aparna Krishnan vyaayamam is proscribed in other conditions also. the level of detail in understanding of effects of foods and habits on health is profound - and allopathy looks quite simplistic and empirical before this knowlege if understood well.
Aparna Krishnan the nighantus give the properties of each food iitem. Milk of cow, buffallo, camel, donkey, elephant etc are all described in detail as to their effects on the body and the conditions they address. so also the meats of every animal and snake. and of the different grees seperately.
Subha Bharadwaj that is some research our rishis did
Zulfi Haider how do you explain the better fitness and health of water guzzeling westernes in general compared with poeple of similar class from say India ? many Siddha practices are different from Ayurveda...now what does it say? In Ayuveda meat eating is not necessaryly seen as harmful; in Siddha they clearly are. i am just saying things may not be so straight forward as they seem.
Aparna Krishnan are the western middle class people in better health than the indian middle class ? we need to check that - i am not so sure, Then Siddha and Ayurveda are in basic principles the same. I have not read siddha, but i doubt if it would have a different take on nutrition at all. I will check and revert. Ayurveda is not concerned about the concepts of vegetarianism or non vegetarianism - the properties of each food, and its desirability in different situations of health or season are detailed. Interestingly, as an aside, morals are addressed - though not in the concept of meat eating - in the sense that in the Sutra Sthana it is clearly said that 'feed the dependents before eating', 'even the ants should not be harmed', 'the impulses of greed, anger etc need to be controlled' and much more. That a medical text addressed all this shows a different philosophical basis of a civiliation.
Aparna Krishnan And then to my understanding the theory as in ayurveda is far for detailed and nuanced, and the western anatomical model does see the body very mechanistically. for instance, i am seeing how they are addressing fluid collection in the head due to a growth. In the case of two close friends, they put a stent so that the flid would get drained away as it got created. In Ayurveda the cause of fluid collection would be the prime concern, and addressed thro' cleaning and diet and medicines. Over years of seeing ayurveda very closely under girija's handling, i am seeing allopathy as more and more of a pumbing approach.
Aparna Krishnan In another case a friend had an uncontrolled nose bleed, and they rushed her to the ICU. Kannan later described it as a 'plumbing approach' (i think i got the term from him !), The blood flow was simply stopped physically. In ayurveda the condition of the blood which caused this unnatural flow would be addressed through a very 'cooling' diet, and medicine (basically aadathoda !). through just 'plumbing', the blood stayed 'impure', and a skin condition which surfaced a year later, girija traced to the unaddressed condition of the blood in the bleeding situation then.
Adharshila Learning Centre The practioner validates the theory. Mostly we see very few good practitioners of ayurveda up north.
Aparna Krishnan that will bring me to another of my (and girija's !)pet heartburns. yes, things are in a sorry state. basically we have grown up on a diet of viewing everything from the western model. so by the time a student reaches BAMS he/ she has deeply internalied protients and vitamins more than vata,pitta,kapha. so an unlearning and relearning is needed. the BAMS syllabus is largely allopathic, and so that does not happen - and the student passing out has no real sense of the subject. unless they find a good vaidya with whom they are able to train and learn, they are lost. So they end up diagnoing with an alopathic perspective, including Xrays and bood reports. There itself they lose their way, and the treatment they offewr is highly compromised. also the budgetry support for indian systems of medicine is so shamefully small compared to allopathy - that well, a civiliation gets what it deserves and chooses i suppose. @Adharshila.
Shobana Ramkumar A well knownn anecdote of Paramacharya is that he cured a young girl of her skin problemm by treating her in house at the Mutt by putting her on a diet of pure plantain stem for two to three wks. While eating it himself also so that she does not feel alone through that period and there is no scope for temptation

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