Sunday 6 June 2021

Ayurveda Experiances


A woman of 40 came to see the doctor with severe sciatica pains.
- She sleeps at 1am every night.
- She eats a lot of vegetables and very little rice/wheat
- She has hot spicy foods.
- She has very little oil.
All four aggravate vata, and are bound to lead to some such severe condition. The modern theory that its only the total hours of sleep that matter is rubbish. That lots of vegetables is a better diet is rubbish. And the fear of cholestrol which is leading to low oil diets is also rubbish.
The poor health of this generation is due to have completely lost a grip on protocol of food and habits. On Dinacharya and Ritucharya. On our inheritence of Ayurveda.
Those interested in getting an understanding and grip on their health in the context of ayurveda can read Jeevani by Dr. PLT Girija. Available on Amazon. And with The Other India Bookstore. This is the best book in ayurveda in English I have read to date



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Yesterday a young and simple Telugu family came to the clinic. The wife had a skin condition, the husband had spondolysis and the two small children worms.
They were having curds daily (curds causes skin diseases, and worms), jaggery daily instead of sugar (jaggery is to be had rarely and causes worms, and also aggravates skinproblems), idli daily (urad dal is nnot to be had daily, and this also aggravates skin problems), very hot and spicy food (which increases vata, and thus all pains). Their diet was corrected.
Modern medicne has left people totally confused about food. The details of food, what is 'nityam' (allowed and advised for daily use), what is to be avoided in which conditions, and which combinations are harmful is detailed lucidly and in great detail in ayurveda, and people have almost lost that link.



Shri K.S, aged about 30.
He came to consult Dr. Girija after an eye test showed that his retina was weak, and laser treatment would be needed. After medications including Mahatriphaladi Gritham, and Triphala (and Saptamrutha Loham for 6 weeks) and external application of Elaneer Kolambu (weekly once), he had a subsequent eye test – and the optometrist asked him if a laser treatment had already been done. (In the diagram the optometrist sketched out also, the degenerative patch was smaller.)
My own personal experience with these medicines has been similar.
People would de well to consult an ayurvedic vaidya at hand for all ills of the body (and mind !). There are vast possibilities here.


Mouth Boils (Ayurveda)
Shri S, aged about 16, used to have mouth boils for 20 days in a month. For 2 years he had been on allopathic drugs. he used to have curds daily. Curds is heating and aggravates pitta - and is wrongly assumed to be cooling.
Within a month of using Maha Tikta Gritham (and altering his existing pitta-aggravating diet – including stopping spicy foods and curds), he was well.
(Just application of triphala on the mouth boils is also very effective.)


Got up with a failing voice. The throat was sore, and the voice was simply not rising.
This condition is called swarabheda in ayurveda. Three or four pepper corns, some honey, sugar and ghee is the yogam from the text.It is an extremely effective remedy. Gargling with triphala decoction is always advised as well for throat conditions

Ayurveda does not advise jaggery over sugar, which is a modern 'alternative' trend. Jaggery if had frequently can cause a host of problems from krimi (worms), to spoiling blood quality. Sugar (matsyandika) is what is advised as 'nityam', for daily use.
Of course, the modern factory sulpherised sugar was unknown, and we need to recreate our traditional processes of sugar manufacture.

https://paalaguttapalle.blogspot.com/2021/05/ayurveda-discussions.html

For a fever, how many of us seek Ayurveda, how many of us seek allopathy ?
...my typhoid, my chikungunya and a suspected dengue have been treated by masterly finnese in Ayurveda, down the last 25 years. And many other fevers, which we never chose to sek an allopathic name for. Mine, daughters, husbands.
An ayurvedic doctor of calibre diagnoses using Ayurvedic parameters and diagnostics, and treats accordingly. And allopathic terms and identification is immaterial.


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At Sanjeevani, I saw two patients today. One was a poor man who had had a gall bladder stone surgery last week, and his back pains had become unbearable. The doctor started treating his back pains without refering to the fact that if he had come earlier the gall bladder condition could have been resolved easily with medicines. What was the point. I have myself seen so many such 'gall bladder stones' cured here. Sukumara Lehyam and Dhanvantara Tailam are among the simplest and most effective medicines.
Another patient had had cauterization done for his warts, and that had now become an angry weal. He said the allopath said that this happens to a small percentage of patients. The doctor did not tell him of the warts that had been cured right here with application of Chirata Tailam and Mathan Tailam and some simple internal medicines. What was the point of saying that now.
That Indians have lost the way to effective Ayurvedic treatments, and instead get caught in complex and uncertian allopathic interventions is a sad statement on the times we live in.

Devi of Mpps Kamalapuram, Pulicherla Mandal, Chittoor District,Andhra Pradesh.India.
A hamlet of very poor ST children.
Where we recently started milk and Ashwagandhadhi. On the teacher's repeated requests and insistence.
Devi's right elbow was very very painful. For years now. And she would never write because of that. She wouldn't let anyone touch it..
She was used to such poor food at home, that she had never had milk and could not stand the smell.
But with Dhananayaka Sir's persistence she started having it. And magic happened.
And now she us very well, the teacher said, the elbow does not hurt. She writes like other children.
This story tells us two truths.
The power of ashwagandhadhi.
... and the utter poverty and malnourishment our children live in ...

Dheerendra Prasad
Aparna Krishnan
 is right - even though she will detest my use of western science to explain it. First the Ayurvedic and Yunani fact - Honey has a hot ‘taseer’ it elevates kapha and is suited for patients with a cold disposition. It is a combination of sugars and enzymes as well as organic remnants of the pollen of the flowers where the nectar came from. Therefore locally sourced it can be a great desensitizer for allergens- a lot of which are pollen and thus great for asthmatics. It has a lower glycemic index and is sweeter to the tongue so great for the diabetic - in small measures. Heating it releases hydroxymethyl formaldehyde - which is toxic - even to bees - and in ayurvedic medicine - it aquires the characteristics of a poison. This happens above 40 degrees Celsius. So adding it to tea/ coffee is not Kosher. Now if you ask how honey - licorice and other hot remedies are acceptable - that is because the HMF released is countered and neutralized by other herbals and antioxidants in those preparations.
The most common household ingredient that will counter HMF is salt - the thought of adding that with honey to your coffee - now thats something !
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    Dheerendra Prasad
     thank you for a detailed response.
    There is nothing to detest as you term it, it's just that I do not seek allopathic validation.
    Just a couple of clarifications.
    1. Honey reduces kapha
    2. Honey heated is poison. Period. Not as in conjunction with medicine or otherwise. Always.
    3. In no situation is heated honey ok, nor neutralized




When we discuss Ayurveda in the village, all of us in the village understand the language. That millets aggravate Vata, and so is inadvisable for old people with joint pains. Old age is already the stage of Vata aggravation, and of joint pains. And rice, wheat, milk, oil, ghee is what they need.
They already know it.
Over to cities. Where the audience is brought up on a knowledge of only vitamins and minerals. They argue that ragi has calcium and so is equal to milk.
Reductionist thinking is opposed to Ayurvedic understanding. The body does not respond to molecules, but to the entire food.
For instance pulses and meat though both are made of amino acids are opposite in their effect on the body.
It is the so called uneducated people of this land who will one day restore to the land her wisdom.


Indian so called intellectuals and so called activists seem to have the need to understand ayurveda cures of Covid in allopathic terminologies.
They have never tried to understand allopathy in terms of vata pitta and kapha, so they dont understand the laughability of their exercise.
If they understand this post, they may understand the essential problem that is devastating this land.

Radhika Rammohan
Activists? ðŸ¤”
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    Radhika Rammohan
     yes yes. They are all also ususlly 'intellectuals' ... caught in the western way of seeing things. So the change they seek is actually within the same western framework.
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    The activists I know have not been skeptical of traditional systems though practically all educated folks try to understand thru western paradigm.
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    Radhika Rammohan
     that is the problem. Trying to understand thro western framework. To feel that that is the superior system and hence one seeks validation from that.
    And that my dear is scepticism of things traditional.

 
In the ayurveda texts, Charaka Samhita and Sushruta Samhita, it is clearly said that a medicine that can cause another complication is not to be considered a medicine.
Allopathy has however accepted and institutionalized medicines causing other disorders. It has also given it a scientific name 'side effects' !


A friend who had recently moved to a village to work on land had developed knee pains.
Questions revealed that now he had
1. More physical work on the land than he has been used to.
2. A switchover to millets from rice.
I asked him to give up his millets, and go back to rice or wheat.
Increase of vata leads to pain - in his case knee pains.
Cause of increase of vata, in his case were
1. Millets
2. Excess physical work
Other common causes for increase of vata are
3. Late nights
4. Excess dals/ sprouts/ rajma/ channa/ potatoes/ cabbage and such foods
5. Ice cold items.
Just correction of diet, and application of Dhanvantara Tailam externally helped. After applying warm oil locally, fomentation with water boiled with vata reducing leaves like tamarind and pongamia increases the benefit.

The mainstream (read allopathy) wants ayurveda to reduce its drugs to a functional molecule.
There is reductionism and there is holisim. Two paradigms.
Allopathy is a reductionist approach, looking at molecules.
Ayurveda has the concept of yogam, where a combination of medicines works in synergy to create far better effect. It is not reductionist like allopathy, and looks both at medicines and at the body itself in holisim.
Indian systems of medicine need level playing ground and then their full power will come to the fore. They do not need to prove themselves to allopaths by isolating molecules, as is demanded. Parity in budget is the demand.

Allopathy is just another system of medicine among many.
We do not need to be validated by them !


My urban friends who are modern educated keep wanting Ayurveda explained or validated in allopathic terms. Otherwise they are unable to accept it. They have no faith in themselves or their country's heritage.
My village friends however clearly understand that Ayurveda is a system which stands on it's own foundation. They have faith themselves and in their country, and benefit wholesomely in the engagement with Ayurveda.

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  • Manohar Kamath
    Dont worry, they will sing paeans to Ayurved after the western world adoption reaches critical mass. The educated urban elites shunned Yoga for many decades but now showoff their Yoga poses and merchandise - bcos they see westerners (especially western elite) practicing diligently some form of Yoga.

K - Ayurveda cannot be pan indian syllabus .. there is Siddha, Unani, and other local traditional knowledge in medicine which needs to be documented and thought ... secondaly Ayurveda is always Raja Vaidyam not for the common man .. one needs to stay in a Ayurvedic centre for 7 to 45 days which only rich and powerful can afford ... I am not saying it does not cure it sure does but can everybody afford
Aparna Krishnan
1. Yes, Siddha, Ayurveda (which are very closely related), and Unani. All. And the local traditions. The commonality between local traditions and ayurveda (and thereby siddha also, I am sure) is remarkable. This I learnt in my village. Dr. Girija is coming out with a detailed note on all these issues, and i will tell you when it is published. This debate is very important, to return health to our people. The poor people.
2. Ayurveda is extremely viable for the poor. Our village people are now seeking ayurvedic medicines. It certianly does not need admission for fevers, coughs, diarrhoea, piles, anaemia, menstrual disorders, joint pains, all of which we are addressing in the village with ayurveda. A heart patient had to come to Chennai to meet Dr. Girija when he had a sudden acute condition. He was also sent back with medicines for some months and is well. grazing 50 sheep !3. We had done a survey in our village of what their health expenses are. They were huge. The ayurveda medicines, which not only address the disease but also build up health, cost much less than what they were spending. Nowadays a fever in a village include a blood test, and medicines and tonics, and costs 300-500/- at the minimum. Our Sudarshan tablets, and the senthil kodi kashayam cost a small fraction of that.


We accept the white man's modern science more than Indian science. The years of 'western schooling' we undergo is partly the cause.
Understanding Ayurveda first needs unlearning of protiens and vitamins as the basis and accepting vata and kapha as the basis. That takes time. And humility.
Not everyone is capable of it.



And when my daughter says that she plans to study Sanskrit seriously there are patronizing comments from the English-ised Indian, "Oh, you want to read the Ramayana and Mahabharata."
The ignorance of this community is as abysmal as their arrogance is immeasurable.
1. To them the knowlege and wisdom stored in Sanskrit is limited to 'Ramayana', and 'Mahabharata'. They probably have as much disdain for Ayurveda (and Vrksharurveda and Mrgayurveda), which is itself a part of the vedas, as they do for Sanskrit. Ayurveda cannot be unbderstood unless Sanskrit is grasped. And as much as Ayurveda, there are a thousand other learnings
2. And the dismissiveness, or is it contempt, towards the Ramayana and Mahabharata, itihasas on which the people of this land anchor their praxis, speaks for their utter deracination, and the less breath wasted on them the better.
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How real this is. Whenever I say I am a scholar of Tamil and Ramayana in a mostly English-ized urban groups, the expressions in those faces are full of disdain, disbelief and at times ridicule.



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There was some post saying that ayurveda does not understand pathogens, and so is a backward science. Rubbish. I had to answer.
"I wish people would read in depth about ayurveda before commenting. Purely on ayurvedic principles, and ayurvedic treatments my daughter has negotiated 15 years. Fevers, diarrhoea, fractures and far more. In the village anaemia, fevers, piles, white discharge, worms etc. are all handled ayurvedically - apart from the usual 'degenerative diseases' like arthritis, and skin diseases and others. The doshas are central to the concept, as also the diseases, and by addressing and balanceing, the pathogens seem to leave. We never needed to 'look at the pathogens'. And then in allopathy when the pathogens are killed I see them recur, because the basic body balance has not been restored. (There are a few diseases where the pathogens are referred to also, as in worms, and certian fevers.)"





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