Tuesday, 24 January 2017

The Tamil Brahmins, yes my community, often thinks it is a very intelligent community becuase many of them get into IIT. But when that intelligence does not translate into understanding moral responsibility, there is a deep problem in our very definition of intelligence.
This privileged community, inheriting a culture of studies at home, further uses the best facilities of the country like IIT, and benefits at the cost of a poor country. And then packs up and move abroad to live in comfort.
What is intelligence ?
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Lakshman Kumar Lakshminarayana I think it's not only money and comfort, there will be other perspectives too ? No, I am not defending here the brain drains. But, I still think it's involves some social factors too....
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 08:43
Aparna Krishnan Still to benefit at the expense of a poor country, and not to consider the moral liabilities they need to address is a poor commentry on them.
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 12:11
Lakshman Kumar Lakshminarayana Are you telling me that there are no brain drains with respect to any other community from IIT....? Yes, I understand quite a number of those folks are from TamBrahm....
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 18:39
Aparna Krishnan  Every community may be compromised. I am questioning mine. Did two wrongs ever make a right ?
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 18:40
Lakshman Kumar Lakshminarayana ha ha ha ha..... I see ownership...
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 19:41
Vijayvithal Jahagirdar I think the key word here is "culture of studies", this culture is not dependent on economic conditions, Some of my classmates from trading communities irrespective of wealth used to look down on education and state that as per their parents they are anyways destined to take up family business after 10th.
Parents from some other communities which are blamed for producing babus disproportionate to their percentage in population kept reinforcing education as the whole and sole reason for a child's existence...

This attitude difference in parents is bound to cause a difference in the child's approach to studies...
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 09:04
Jasmine Shone I wish people would stop saying "my my my" categorizing themselves and others they think are similar to them so much, what s so different of us as humans , same blood, same moods..........hell with all this bullshit in the name of gods and country and all the shtty excuses,
LikeReply125 January 2016 at 11:19
Jasmine Shone Unless a certain group of people grow tails or fins we must refrain from using the word "my people and our people" 
LikeReply225 January 2016 at 11:32
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Aparna Krishnan We are each answerable and responsible for the errors of the community we are in, and the onus is accepted when we use the word 'our'.
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 11:35
Jasmine Shone Asolutely the moment we separate ourselves from the rest of humanity labelling us under any groups we shouldnt be complaining abt the differences such labels create in the first place
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 11:37
Aparna Krishnan The fabric of any nation is different groups. I try to understand the reality and work in that. Celebrate the strengths and correct the errors. There are the potters with their practices, the vaddars with theirs, and so on. And anyway its brings in a diversity and colour that it also beautiful. I for one would not flatten indian out of ther myriad groups. Yes I will fight against any verticalization !
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 11:39
Jasmine Shone How abt just being humans, havent we seen those in power just use our differences to control
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 11:40
Aparna Krishnan My village and India is very different from K's picturising. That is not social reality, but an individual praxis. . They operate on 2 different planes ma.
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 11:40
Jasmine Shone Again "my" seriously tired so seeing so much need to separate inspite of all the evils we see with our own eyes....................wish people would just let go of their need to cling on and yap abt it.
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 11:42
Jasmine Shone doesnt bring anyone any good but wars, people killed over such stupid differences
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 11:43
Jasmine Shone what satisfaction does it bring creating these walls and defending it
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 11:43
Aparna Krishnan . I am very happy when my village children call me 'our madam'. And I am proud to call my village mine !! Maybe that is my failing !
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 11:43
Aparna Krishnan Anyway its ok ma. Not much to debate over. Small and personal preferance. OK, 'our village' !! 
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 11:44
Jasmine Shone whatever !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 11:45
Naveen Manikandan Periasamy New age sloganeering(with internet quotes of great/wise men) is often taken out of context by the regurgitator and distorts reality on the ground.
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 21:07
Gopal Krishna Iyer Why are you blaming Tamil brahmins! Despite reservation curbs they work very hard and get into specialised education and go abroad to get into jobs due lack of such opportunities in the country.All community people go for jobs just not Tamil Brahmins. It is not fair to brand them.
LikeReply225 January 2016 at 13:30
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Aparna Krishnan Yes, everyone is after Mammon. I simply question my tribe  And there is enough opportunity to serve in this country, maybe not so much to earn more and more !
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 13:32
Gopal Krishna Iyer Lack of opportunity drive them to greener pastures
Nothing wrong with our so called TRIBE!
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 14:06
Aparna Krishnan Plenty of opportunity to serve mama !
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 18:05
Lakshman Kumar Lakshminarayana There's no lack of opportunity here, but yes 'Serving' that's a key word.... How comfortable (i mean the minimally required comfort) that they get from society is the question, it's quite natural to quote a blanket of problems to get off from a place where we are not comfortable..... But the problem that should be discussed here 'what's making them to quote uncomfortable' rather 'why are you not serving the county' - which might look template
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 18:44
Aparna Krishnan Why ? When one is privileged, and also one has been nurtured by a society that is fundamentally poor - I will focus on the word 'serve'. yes, after attending to basic necessaties for oneself and one's family certianly.
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 18:46
Mekhala Gee I am not sure why you keep complaining about the educated people (brahmins in this case) who moved away..what about the millions of equally educated brahmins, crorepatis etc. still in India..what are they doing for their country?
UnlikeReply125 January 2016 at 19:30
Aparna Krishnan All of them, ma, i question all of them.Starting with myself - there is so much I have left undone. I start questioning my community. They are brahmins and many have quit the shores in my own family.
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 19:33
Aparna Krishnan But in staying in the country i think there is still a certian stake we own up, and so maybe i question those who go. But each one of needs to question ourselved deeply - I agree.
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 19:34
Gopal Krishna Iyer Why this outburst against brahmins a minority who do not enjoy any price ages now.Cannot get admissions in technical colleges unless they are toppers.This hold good for Government jobs.All tribes have crorepathis. Why single out brahmins.
LikeReply125 January 2016 at 19:38
Aparna Krishnan because it is my community, and i start with questioning myself and my community. thats all. others will question theirs - there are deeply responsible people in every community.
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 19:39
Lakshman Kumar Lakshminarayana You used 'my community' - all hell will break loose now.... 
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 19:44
Aparna Krishnan why ? the Naidus own up theirs and their failings. As do the Jains. And as I will also.
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 19:46
Lakshman Kumar Lakshminarayana I don't know.... Progressive people don't like...  
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 21:55
Aparna Krishnan . I think progressive people long ago unfrirnded me or unfollowed me. My village people are my friends - they are not progressive because they beleive in god, they maintain the village temple, they follow the practices of their castes ... !
LikeReply125 January 2016 at 21:57
Vipin Sharma The finest Indian brains have unfortunately left the motherland maybe they feel that their intelligence is more valued in USA rather than in India. And it is so unfortunate that a sixth standard school drop out becomes the deupty CM of Bihar, is it democracy or a joke. Amma is worshipped like goddess by the same Brahmin community in Tamil Nadu, and J.Jayalalitha is one of the greatest egotist to ever born. This country of ours is full of strange paradoxes, where idol worship and sheep walk has become the order of the day, film stars, cricketers and politicians who are worshipped like demi-gods rule the roost, but are the ordinary citizens to be blamed for such state of affairs?
LikeReply125 January 2016 at 14:21
Sridhar Bhaskarla Looking at some of the messages here, I am confused. Are we saying that 'merit' comes by birth like it has been permanently programmed in the DNA of certain communities by nature??
UnlikeReply125 January 2016 at 17:04
Aparna Krishnan Did i say that ?? My village children, SC and first generation learners are among the brightest I have ever seen.
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 18:06
Aparna Krishnan My point was that that intelligence to do Fast fourier Transforms genetically coded, or uncoded, is meaningless. What matters is the intelligence of the heart and soul.
LikeReply125 January 2016 at 18:08
Sridhar Bhaskarla Aparna Krishnan Not yours particularly madam. I meant in general, not only in this thread, but everywhere where people bring up merit mercilessly .
UnlikeReply125 January 2016 at 18:47
Aparna Krishnan I care two hoots for merit as in IQ. Yes, i respect that merit which helps a person understand his larger responsibilities towards the society, and which build in him the moral strength to live by that understanding.
LikeReply125 January 2016 at 18:49
Sridhar Bhaskarla Siva Vats I have been reading these spiritual books since my 3rd standard and I have to say that I have had enough. For me they go similar to the title of book "Subbaiah made maths difficult". If you were trying to respond to my post, it will be wonderful if you could post your opinion in your own words than redirecting me to some book. Thank you.
LikeReply125 January 2016 at 18:57
Sridhar Bhaskarla Thank you for the explanation. I am not so qualified for intellectual discussions verily I am not a thinker leave-aside a philosopher which makes me to seek for uncomplicated answers.
LikeReply25 January 2016 at 19:12
AV Gopalakrishnan Studying best course in a good university or IIT is understandable. Even choosing a job or profession make sense. However, forgetting the roots of the family, culture, village, town or country which took care of the same person during their childhood and provided an environment to climb the ladder in life is to be condemned. It is to say the least selfish, mean and thankless personality.
LikeReply225 January 2016 at 18:21
Ilamaran Mathivanan Getting into IIT doesn't mean intelligent. Actually scoring high marks, getting 1st rank, topping colleges haven't taken these brains anywhere. What change they have made to this society? What change they have made to the quality of life?
UnlikeReply125 January 2016 at 20:44
Aparna Krishnan Or even to the quality of the life of the topper ! Beyond 3 good meals a day, one cannot eat anyway.
LikeReply125 January 2016 at 20:45
Ilamaran Mathivanan True. Spirituality has been completely weaned away from their life. Every one are so much driven by meritocracy that it's now become idiocracy. Every one wants to 'achieve, succeed' by consuming more and more. The more one consumes, the more one possesses means he is winning. How stupid!!!! It has made each and every one of us narcissistic.
UnlikeReply225 January 2016 at 20:50
Karthik T Duraisamy Partially agree.. this applies for all communities, why only Tamil bram?
LikeReply28 January 2016 at 15:53
Aparna Krishnan yes, yes all communities  I am questioning my own, thats all.
LikeReply128 January 2016 at 15:54
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